Our Monday podcast with Laura about the 10 bills wending their way through the California legislature was eye-opening.
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Here is the current status of the bills:
The good news
SB 920 pulled. Would have allowed medical boards access to private patient records.
AB 1993 pulled. Would have required Covid vaccine for all employees and independent contractors.
Bills scheduled for committee hearings (Listed in order of hearing date):
SB 1184 - Gives schools easier access to medical records.
SB 1464 - Requires peace officers to enforce public health orders.
AB 1797 - Develops a state immunization registry.
AB 2098 - Allows the medical board to discipline doctors for misinformation.
SB 1479 - Sets up a state-run Covid testing program in schools.
Bills currently in limbo:
SB 1390 - Prohibits social media from amplifying misinformation and conspiracy theories.
SB 866 - Allows 12 year olds to be vaccinated without parental consent.
SB 871 - Requires all children to receive Covid vaccine and removes exemptions.
TRANSCRIPT
Justin:
I hope everyone is doing well here my earbuds do not seem to be working very well so I am just going to be speaking into my phone right here give me a thumbs up if you can hear me
Okay I think we're going to be sounding just fine we're here on the callin callin podcast for a very special event today we're going to be talking about a host of various things
Including my home state of california I was born and raised when I was born here but my generation goes back many moons here in california jenny's generations go back many more moons
My grandparents my great grandparents were here jenny goes back to the 1850s in here so we have california roots far and wide and deep and I want to bring onto the podcast right now an incredible person who's making an impact on all sorts of various things here
Let me see if I can invite you up to speak here how that works there and then you can accept that laura and laura on mute your phone we should be good to go
Welcome
Laura:
Hi
Justin:
Thanks well the crowds are starting together but no matter we have the recording going and this will be live we'll put some experts up here thanks for joining us today
Laura where are you callin from I am in pleasant hill california and that's just a stone's throw from where I grew up in fact probably right there by my high school
The fighting dawns of aqualani that's right our mascot was the dawn I don't know if it still is not that's kind of that's very unwoke I'm not sure if they've changed the mascot or not at my alma mater
Laura:
Dawn is a priest
Justin:
Right yes dawn isn't don juan you know the folks who basically took over the entire area so the bay area has a lot of challenges for sure but I still call it hometown
And I grew up in the 80s which was probably one of the best places to grow up in the country at that time and I'm still very proud of everything that's come out of there
My parents are still there my mom is on the podcast right now she's still up there at the homestead and at some point I love coming back to the bay area
And it's just a beautiful incredible scene that's full of a little bit of chaos now and all that chaos is mirrored up and down the coast and most prominently now with
Of course these range of bills that are coming down the pipeline now those of you who want to see a graphic representation of this I don't mean violent
But a visual you can go to our substitute cobaltreason substation substat.com and you can see up there at the top there our first article this is put together by the good folks at perk
Perk is the group that stalled the vax mandate in los angeles and they did so in a great jujitsu move but you can see they've logged now ten different bills that are making their way through the legislation
Now you may just kind of wave me off and say well that's just california you guys are crazy but as california goes you can bet that it will not be far along behind in new york and otherwise now I am singing bass today
I haven't adjusted anything on the sound settings I'm just getting over a slight cold quote unquote right I don't know maybe we'll see but that being said
It kind of went through the heart household finally got to me just over the and weekend a little bit here but more like allergies it kind of feels like way I can still taste everything just fine
So laura now tell us you have two kids there in the bay area
Laura:
Yep
Justin:
They are in kindergarten and third grade oh fantastic we've got a kindergartner coming up and a couple of the ones on the way there but what school will your third grade to give the school out
I'll ask you later I love my old haunts there those are always fun all right look so to set it up there are a couple of people that are really pushing hard
Basically the pandemic is weighing down the emergency is still in place all of the powers given to health authorities are basically there but there was a statewide mantra to somehow get rid of mass somehow that got through
But there are a few very stringent elected officials one of them is dr. senator pan and maybe you can talk to him about a little bit but as I understand it
Doctor pan is termed out is that right
Laura:
Yes
Justin:
And I don't know what he's doing after he leaves office this year but he's basically on the way out burning all the bridges it seems he's just throwing everything into the hopper
Laura:
Yeah and I mean a lot of people they do musical chairs with the term limits and he has not as far as I can tell he's not running for anything so I don't know what his plans are and what his motivation for doing this on his way out is
Justin:
I know he got he has money still and he's still fundraising really well look we have kind of a whacka mole set up right now okay there are ten of these moles and we've got a whack
The good news is we do have a couple of victories can you speak to those there
Laura:
Yeah we've had two of them that have been withdrawn they could come back from the dead there's no guarantees but one of them is sb 920 that one was not directly covet related
But it raised a lot of privacy concerns because it allowed the medical board to inspect patient records at any time without a good reason that was withdrawn recently
Justin:
The other one that was a really big one is abnormal
Laura:
That was buffy wicks who is in berkeley oakland area
Justin:
That one would have required every single person who is an employee or an independent contractor to show their employer proof that they had been vaccinated against covid
Now that's crazy let's step back a little bit now how did you come to this information you yourself are a lawyer is that right yeah and what sort of law do you practice there
Well I actually practice criminal appellate law
Laura:
Oh wow so this is outside but I also studied public policy advocacy in law school so this is kind of coming back to what I initially went to law school for fighting for civil liberties and things like that
So I've just basically one of these mothers who has
Justin:
In the past couple of years really been motivated to get more involved in what's going on and look at the situation with the vaccines is this this vaccine was designed for a variant of the virus that came about two years ago
It wasn't designed really to quell doesn't do terribly well against delta does very little against hong kong does nothing against ba two and then on top of that
We have for our kids and for other various industries vaccine mandates but those vaccines that are introduced whether it's measles or polio or mmr those vaccines had been around for a decade and a half in full approval mode with lots of studies before they were even considered as a mandate right here
We're talking about a vaccine that's less than a year old basically and they're trying to shove it down the throats of every single person who works in the state of california
Contractor employer otherwise now senator wicks put out a tweet thread and she hasn't killed the bill but she's pulled it right now is that right
Laura:
Yeah they don't die until the end of the season legislative season so there's no guarantees it won't come back as a zombie bill but one of the things that happened there is we saw a lot of people line up against it and it wasn't just people who could be labeled as antivaxxer
We had a lot of unions
Justin:
We had agricultural businesses
Laura:
A big long list of people were against it
Justin:
I can't imagine what sort of paperwork being involving the legislature in sacramento was just famous for overstepping and stepping in it then I remember one of my good friends
My first political client it was chuck d'vore out of orange county he was running for senate against barbara boxer in 2010 on the republican side but he was of a semblamen up there
And california was the first to basically do away with edison's invention the incandescent light bulb and this is around 20 09 20 08 or so they said
We're going to do away with that and in fact we're going to mandate cfl light bulbs those little curly q light bulbs right so chuck gets on the floor and he says
You guys are nuts about a year from now you're going to come back here and try to figure out how you're going to do a recycle program because the elements that are involved in the curly queue cfl are awful and the cfls burn out all the time
They're just awful and inefficient and you have these led light bulbs coming down the reason why it took forever for led light bulbs to come down in price was because california mandated cfls
And so here we have this again california bellwether progressive crazy state that implements these things can you imagine every single employer having to deal with that crazy powell
I'm glad that was tabled yes go ahead
Laura:
Well I was going to say the way I look at these mandates when you were talking about how this differs from other vaccines and there is the lack of long term research
So we're not so clear on what the risks are but the other huge thing is that these don't prevent transmission right right so that is when you're forcing somebody to get a vaccine
Generally people have a right to decide whether or not to be injected with something whether or not to submit to a medical treatment that's generally considered a human right
If you're going to override that you really have to have a good reason and if it doesn't prevent transmission
Justin:
There just isn't a social benefit to forcing people to get vaccinated benefits you have to weigh right the science on that we've seen some really good litmus tests on the federal level where a lot of these federal mandates have been struck down or halted or otherwise
So even if something like this passes I think there's a lot of layers would have to go through before it became full law but don't put it past california and find a way to do it
Now let's talk about the other bills that are still in queue and maybe I think you've got me a list here maybe you just kind of walk through each of the ones there and give us
Justin a brief description of what it does yeah
Laura:
I had them listed from how soon they're going to be heard
Justin:
So how urgent they are if you want to take action on them
Laura:
We have sb 1184 just as background these are sb means it's in the senate ab means it's in the assembly sometimes I might misspeak and confuse them but this one raises some privacy issues
It will allow schools to access your child's medical information the argument in favor is that this will help schools provide mental health treatment but allowing people who work at schools to have full access to your children's health records raises potential privacy concerns
I mean these bills raise a lot of issues besides just the covid issues I see some themes here in terms of privacy issues free speech really turning schools into public health agencies and above all giving way too much power to public health in general
Justin:
So this is really a privacy thing we actually have eff the electronic frontier foundation as opposed to this on privacy grounds because we'll find a lot of good opposition to this and it is crazy to think that your teachers would have access to this and other medical authorities might just kind of throw in there
I can't imagine that would meet the muster so you see that's coming up soon
Laura:
Does that pass out of committee okay everything is in committee right now some of them one of them has gone through one committee some of them have to go through multiple committees
So this one is tomorrow afternoon in the senate judiciary judiciary committee and then it's not going to any other committees which seems a little strange
It's not going to education or health or anything so if that passes
Justin:
That would head to the senate floor wow alright sb 1464 now this one you highlighted as something unique
Laura:
Too well yeah I mean I've looked at it a bit it changes california law from right now it says that law enforcement can enforce public health orders
And this would change the language to say that they must enforce public health orders so when there is a lockdown or whatever they would be in violation of the law if they didn't go out and enforce them by arresting people or whatever
This is clearly aimed at some of the sheriffs who announced that they weren't going to enforce the orders originally
Justin:
I think riverside and I'm not sure what other counties yeah there were many counties I think at first when you had police chasing down paddle borders in the ocean
The police and sheriffs look back on that I think in total embarrassment because it's just a ridiculous use of their resources and so when the mask mandate came back on
When the lockdowns came and surreal their head I think this was probably around the winter of 2020 to 2021 and then later that year as well they're like
No we're not going to do this I'm not going to be spending my resources if you call and call someone out for not wearing a mask or calling some business that's doing this
We're not going to be sending cops there so this would be I think they're really egregious I'm sure there's some opposition to this
Laura:
Yes luckily again when you see opposition from groups that aren't just parents and this one is getting opposition from a lot of law enforcement agencies
And I think the california state sheriff's association is kind of taking the lead on opposing this so hopefully that will get the attention of the committee that's happening wednesday in the senate public safety committee
Justin:
All right that's wednesday wow okay and now we go on to the assembly they have a bill 1797 I'm citing here that it makes changes to the california immunization record database for government agencies to have access to all vaccine records in addition to just the students
Laura:
Yeah again this has like privacy concerns in general where schools would get easier access to this database all the immunization records we go into this database
It's not directly covert related so much but it just raises a lot of privacy concerns and from my point of view this overall picture of how we're getting more and more power to public health
We're eroding privacy
Justin:
That's what's concerning to me most about these bills this one is interesting though I'll tell you from a perspective from a data perspective right
We've been very sorely lacking in data so when the government on the national level says that you're 97 times more likely to be hospitalized and die if you're unvaccinated than you are vaccinated
We went through and with the help of clayton cobb and a few other people demonstrated how that was completely bogus and it's bogus because there's no central database of vaccinations everything else there but I think if we touted that it would lead to some serious
Serious issues so I'm posting this bill as well
Laura:
I just want to say is I've heard that the database is actually a mess so this isn't going to prove the database it's just going to give people more access to it
Justin:
Now this next one is quite the doozy we've seen this come down on the county level here in san diego and of course I'm assuming the federal government facebook and twitter on this very issue come to ab 2098 tell us about that
Laura:
That allows the medical board to go after doctors who promote anything that's considered misinformation or deviate from what is considered the standard of care and anytime I'm seeing this misinformation and that's the thing it's not just about covid mandates and vaccines and all that
It's really a lot of stifling of free speech and this chill a doctor trying to talk to a patient giving them good advice is giving them advice that is based on science and data would be at risk because if they're giving them information based on science rather than the science
Justin:
This is presuming that there's a medical consensus out there that really doesn't exist no if you talk to physicians you talk to doctors and nurses they're walking on eggshells
We tried to get our pediatrician to basically provide us an exemption for masks right for our kids our three and four year olds and she refused and I can't still tell if she refused over sort of
I really do believe they work versus I'll get freaking fired if it comes back to me right and so those are really challenging let's skip just a quick bit to sb 1390
Which is related and this one towards the general public right yeah
Laura:
The pan as I've gotten to know him better I've discovered not only is he a pro vaccine extremist but he really hates free speech and he really hates people who disagree with him being allowed to have a platform
So he is going after them with sb 1390 this would prohibit social media platforms from amplifying harmful content so this harmful content includes misinformation
Disinformation
Justin:
Conspiracy theories none of these things are defined conspiracy theories
Laura:
There's such a thing
Justin:
Prosecutors can charge people with conspiracy right
Laura:
People do conspire right that's not defined there I mean I just look at this and don't see how it's enforceable or legal
Justin:
But he's throwing it in there
Laura:
Yeah I mean he wants to make who's defining misinformation but paying attention to what he does he's going after a lot of people he's published like he published an op ed in the washington post saying that people who are antivaxxers are akin to terrorists
He is trying to shut down people who criticize him on twitter
Justin:
Often successfully
Laura:
People who are just disagreeing with him he hides all the negative comments on his tweets so he really dislikes free speech
Justin:
And this is his attempt to stifle that and he muzzles himself if you see him any one of these hearings he is one of the few people I still know double masked
He may have a third mask on there for all I know but my goodness but that one is thankfully in limbo right that's not hasn't been sort of put to committee yet
Laura:
It can pop up at any time
Justin:
We got one more that's sort of scheduled that's 1479
Laura:
Tell us about that one yeah that one unfortunately went through its first tiering this one is covid testing in schools would make this set up a program that's estimated to cost $1.5 billion
It's first year that may be an underestimate it doesn't set out exactly the parameters
Justin:
It just gives the california department of health the power to set up the testing program it would exist forever
Laura:
Not surprisingly it is supported by companies that do testing some of them are startups that just were created for this purpose another one is a population genome company that has gotten into testing
Justin:
And these companies were testifying on behalf of it so they have real financial status to gain from it and they're brought in to boot bolsters
Laura:
It's crazy yeah it's kind of creating a coveted industrial complex as they gain more money from these bills and then that gives them more money to have lobbyists to get more money for their businesses
But we had a doctor in there rom duracetti came in and tried to explain to the committee how testing doesn't actually reduce the spread of the virus
Justin:
And we know that we have two years of data now we can compare different places that had testing
Laura:
Didn't have testing and we don't see a difference and with the false positives you have
Justin:
It's just causing disruption to schooling yeah 62% of tests and the latest round of studies that we've seen probably carry no live virus at all right
It may have been false positives altogether the pc test can pick up a virus at five days and 75 days that's something that even dr. olensky admits finally
We've been saying that for two years and it's absurd and so to see these you will never ever get rid of covid if your test listing at that level
Laura:
Yeah and one of the things about this too this is what I mentioned before is it's really turning the whole school system into this arm of public health where they're there
And I know my kids when they started school this year were being taken out of class to be tested this was disruptive to their education this becomes a whole program that local school districts have to implement
Justin:
It's a crazy scene we've seen it ourselves in many ways too where even our private school who we paid because we thought they wouldn't be part of the state
They cow towed they succumbed they're a full testing regime realizing now it's really not any different than the public sector goes as far as what policies they will shun versus adhere to
We just have to pay for it so we're pulling our kids out of that private school going back to public right now and just praying for the best because the last two bills we have there
This is sb 866 sb 871
Laura:
These are the kickers right yeah saving the best for last these are two of the ones that are kind of scariest they're not set right now and that maybe is a good sign because they're not going to bring them to the committee unless they think they have the votes and they're not set for committee
But they can set them kind of last minute
Justin:
There is I don't know maybe should we start with 866
Laura:
That is wiener's vaccine consent law that would give any child ages twelve and up the right to consent to be vaccinated without their parents knowledge
To me it's kind of obvious that twelve year olds we know that they don't have a lot of good long term thinking their brains aren't fully developed they can't weigh the risks and benefits
They don't necessarily understand all the medical issues they probably aren't capable of understanding the sheet from pfizer that they're supposed to read and understand in order to give informed consent
Justin:
I mean the list of problems also the pfizer vaccine is only under emergency use for ages twelve to 15
Laura:
Right we've seen this with adults where they've been trying to bribe people to get vaccinated right we're at school and you tell a twelve year old here
We'll give you some candy if you sign this form and say we can give you the shot
Justin:
Yeah I can't remember there was some burger joint that was basically going to give away free fries for anyone who got vaccinated and you go wait let me tell you about the true risks of cobid and who that impacts
Laura:
Donuts
Justin:
Yeah
Laura:
But they'll flat out bribe them I mean they're susceptible to peer pressure adults are too but kids really don't have their brains fully formed and they wouldn't necessarily know if they had something in their medical history that meant they shouldn't be vaccinated
Justin:
And it's just also this bigger picture that a lot of parents across the country where they feel like the school is kind of coming between them and their children and maybe it is for them for that fight
Right that's a crazy scene now sp 871 this is the baileywick this is the golden ring that we all want to see right
Laura:
Yeah I feel like this is the one I've been focused on and all the parents I know have been focused on and this is the one that would make all children ages five and up required to be vaccinated with the pfizer vaccine in order to attend school
Justin:
And no exemptions they pull the personal exemption there's not much of a religious exemption left but they will pull anything that would object to it and you'd have to get them vaccinated
Is that right
Laura:
Yeah so one of the things that with the exemptions all the exemptions are gone for vaccines other than medical but they made that hard to get because they scared doctors into not giving them out
But all the vaccines that come in through the legislature don't have those exemptions the ones that come through the department of public health still have a personal belief exemption
So one of the things that's going on with this that people aren't going to pay as much attention to there's a provision that would remove those exemptions if the department of public health decides to to impose it
Wow so even if they got rid of the main provision people are paying attention to that would mandate the covid vaccine
Justin:
It would allow the california department of public health to impose this vaccine and any other ones that these companies come up with with no exemptions
Pfizer just came out with their alopecia vaccine and I guess we'll be taking that soon and have full heads of hair though
Laura:
Well
Justin:
Yeah I heard moderna a little while back saying they were going to start doing an rsv vaccine and they were going to combine it with the flu vaccine and the coping vaccine
So you get triple vaccinated every fall great and look how well that works right
Laura:
So that was their plan but this is taking the whole process out of it so that now these unelected officials can do this without going through any sort of process
So yeah this is one that for every parent I know especially with the young children who really don't need this vaccine
Justin:
Are really worried about and just the long term implications of giving this much power to unelected officials scarcity and it seems like there's kind of a hurry up and wait
That is they're putting through some of these ones they think they can get through this one is not yet in front of a committee right
Laura:
Yeah that's what I'm saying is that they won't put it there unless they know they get the votes and pan is the chair of the health committee where this would be heard first
So he can control that he's also on the education committee where this would be heard next
Justin:
Yeah and we've seen the massinations that they will go to you had kevin kylie kyle who was up there and representative out of northern california out of the sacramento area
And he gets up there because he was called to present his bill on reducing or removing the gas tax across the board and instead of doing that they tricked him
He submitted his bill to the committee the committee gutted the bill added even more taxes and that way no one had to put their name on it except for kevin
And it was a crazy scene and I'm not sure where that ended up but boy that's the kind of really evil ridiculous stuff that the democratic legislature right now is voicing there
Laura:
Yeah shenanigans is the word I keep using right now we're kind of at the beginning of the legislative season but that's why I'm saying these bills that got tabled
I don't want to have people get their guards down because who knows what shenanigans are going on and there are a lot of tricky things like that I mean that was crazy
Justin:
They said I want to amend the bill delete the entire thing and replace it with something else right it's like something you would do in the back room with the smoke filled cigars and everything else
They did it right in front of the camera he submitted the bill and then this guy with the mohawk gets up there some assembly and he goes yeah we're going to want all the text to be stricken from the bill and replaced with this and then he talks about tax on corporations and it was ridiculous
Laura:
It was insane I felt like he was reading from a script that somebody had just handed him and didn't even know yeah but yeah that's why keeping our guard up staying informed about what's going on and there's so many tricks that they can play their control of this process and yeah
Justin:
It's really important to stay informed so what can people do in california and beyond to help voice opinion again as california goes so go with the rest of the country you can go down the list of various social issues various tax issues and it will show up in your state soon enough if california implements it
So what can people do to quell this
Laura:
Well I mean yeah I agree that they use states as sort of test cases if they get away from away with it here they'll try it elsewhere but yeah people are always I know a lot of people want to know what to do and it's very frustrating because you feel like your representatives don't listen
You'll send emails you'll call and you feel like they don't listen to you and that's because they don't listen to you the reality is the wholesale system is set up not to get input from voters but there are ways that you can get your voice heard out there and the thing is they don't listen to voters
But they do listen to special interest groups so you make your voice heard through a special interest group any kind of organization and there are for example
There is most
Justin:
If not all countries any board of supervisors have legislation
Laura:
Committees
Justin:
If they don't have a committee you can just go to the board of supervisors and they will take positions on bills that are pending in the state legislature
Laura:
And at the county level you have a lot more input
Justin:
You know there aren't that many people who pay attention your voice gets heard a lot more than it does directly at the state level right
Laura:
No I think that's powerful yeah I mean get involved at the local level and it goes up and school boards and even if you don't have kids in school you still have a right to be involved in that
And when you go to these groups you need to think about what their interest is they're not going to be interested in all of these but think about what their interest is like spike 71 that would mandate the vaccines that would result in so many parents pulling their kids from the school system that I think it would bankrupt a lot of districts
So that is the argument that you make to the school boards they can't afford to lose all these families
Justin:
It isn't about just saying oh the vaccines are too dangerous or whatever I mean it's about those practical concerns that they have yeah that's a great point
We're going to be having the folks from perk on again on wednesday to talk about what actions they're taking again they're one of those groups that you can channel your energy to
And the way that they stopped the vaccine mandate in los angeles in los angeles county the laura was that they pointed out that you're not going to be able to get all these kids backed in time for the second part of the school year here in 2022
And so you're going to have a lot of kids on independent study they estimated how many that would be and then told the judge the school has nowhere near that sort of independent study status to deal with this
The judge said yeah they're going to be completely overwhelmed so no we'll mix that so they pushed it to 2022 2023 but we'll see where it goes if they can make some headway
And most importantly because we know the elections are coming up you remember a lot of blue states in the summer of late of last year they masked up
They shut down there are a lot of different states that did that whether it was new york or whether it was michigan or illinois california did not go full bore
Why because there was a recall election right and so elections really do have that power and if we can demonstrate to them and again you are perfectly in your right to threaten their jobs and say
I'm going to work night and day to make sure that you lose your job and I think that speaks volumes you'd be very surprised the people that answer the phones of these things
Laura:
When you convey this to them they go that's my job too what am I doing right well yeah when you talk to your representatives so we have half of the senators are up for reelection
Well I guess not up for reelection but the seats maybe are open if they're leaving like pan so that's the thing too to talk to your representatives directly
Some of them may be more responsive some of them will brush you off but to ask for a meeting with them to discuss this and if they're running for office and actually if they're termed out
They may be running for another office in your area
Justin:
So they may have more of a motivation to talk to you very interesting yeah I think you'll find a lot of momentum especially as we get through some of the primaries and different things that happen here
And we'll be able to as we get closer and the polls start showing what's happening I think they're going to be very shocked but of course someone like dr. pan has nothing to lose
He's just throwing it all out there and going to burn all the bridges on the way out what a crazy crazy scene laura
Laura:
Yeah well let's see I'm trying to think of how to close here on talking to your representatives I was saying that the first thing get to know your representatives
Who they are what committees they are on and the next thing after you get to know them is to make them get to know you so the emails aren't going to do it
Make sure they hear your voice through asking for a meeting getting groups that you belong to like I said board of supervisors school board if you belong to a union
Any sort of professional organization if you are a small business owner and in a chamber of commerce talking to your friends staying up to date on what's going
On you were talking about perk sends out really good information alerts there's a number of other organizations that do that
Justin:
Make sure you know what's going on you know and I appreciate you letting me help get the word out what's going on well we're going to push this far and wide
We'll take different clips of it and try to bring to bear some of the more urgent matters there yeah you can go to find ca gov finderrep legislature
Ca gov you can pump in your address it'll see right there you click on the name they'll have all the office information go to the official website
You'll be able to get a lot of this done here
Laura:
And if you want to track these bills and you can get email alerts when anything new is happening when they're set for hearing or anything like that at the ledgeinfold
Legislature ca
Justin:
Gov
Laura:
You can sign up there to get alerts whenever something new happens with any of these bills and you can plug in those ten bills we talked about
Justin:
Amazing well let's see where those end up we'll keep an eye on this for you guys and let's keep cranking and see what we come up with all right laura
Thank you so much for your time today I appreciate it thank you I'm so glad to get the word out to more people and keep the barrier alive there I know it's a crazy
Painful place but hopefully it will become our city by the bay again yeah I mean I'm born and raised here too so yeah it is a crazy place to be in these times
All right awesome thanks guys we'll talk
Laura:
Thank you justin
Justin, Many thanks for the transcript. Allowed me to learn in seven minutes what would otherwise have taken an hour. That matters. And cheers for the good things you are doing...they are really important.
Terrific news about SB 920 and AB 1993 getting pulled!! Two down, eight to go.
I am planning to write a letter regarding these bills but need to juggle with other deadlines. You mentioned the bills are listed in order of hearing date, but I haven’t found those specific dates yet. Can you please provide those if it isn’t too much trouble? Mainly, I need to know what the deadline for submitting public comments is.
For the bills in limbo (SB 1390, SB 866, SB 871), should we submit public comments about those now or wait in case it’s moot?