Internal spreadsheet spills the deets. The fall meeting of the AGU in New Orleans conjured up a climate-size conference of covid victims. Here's what we found.
Fascinating. Among those I know who got COVID at any point over the last two years, those who believe the news all say the same few things: "I did everything right." "We were being safe." "We saw only our friends, but we knew they were being safe." "I never left the house except for groceries, and then I wore my mask." "I always wore a mask." They blame the usual: Trump, people from "out-of-state," "freedom-lovers," anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers. Yet they can't figure out where and how they caught it.
A close relative who caught it in August 2021 sent in an email at the time: "I can only assume it was some freedom loving patriot at the grocery store." A Facebook post from a friend of a friend in September 2020 offered two possibilities. First: "Shopping at a popular grocery store . . . I likely touched an infected grocery cart, frozen food door, produce or credit card reader. . . . I might have let my guard down and touched my face while adjusting my glasses that day." Or: "I talked with a construction worker here at the house" who had "just returned from a Labor Day weekend wedding from out-of-state. Neither one of us was wearing a mask and he did not quarantine upon returning." (Apparently, state lines make both vigilantes and viruses more dangerous.) He advised vigilance, hand-washing, and masks: "I wore one for six months and I was healthy the whole time."
Note the three-day gap in the AGU conference data between exposure and positive test result, indicating an average incubation period of less than three days. Early on, the incubation period was about 5.5 days. It makes sense that it would continue to shorten, as viruses tend to become more infectious (faster moving) and less severe over time.
I got a positive test result just last night, Tuesday, from a swab Monday morning, from a probable exposure Friday evening, when I attended a fancy private wine tasting. My symptoms (mild aches, runny nose) appeared Sunday. I've been attending wine tastings, other events, and restaurant meals throughout, but this one had some noteworthy features. It was in a small room with a low ceiling, no fans, no open windows or doors. (Once it began, no one came or left). It lasted two hours. Voices were loud, with lots of shouting and laughing. Fourteen of the preceding 28 days had low temperatures ranging from 32 to 39 (I'm in Denver). And we were just four days from the winter solstice, so we have relatively little daylight, though not as little as New York or Brussels. (it's fitting that I got the rest result on the solstice.)
Sitting down for the event, I texted my wife, "This would be a likely event to catch the virus at." Although I'd been moving freely throughout, I'd never sent a message like this before. An elderly couple arrived, wearing the pointy masks indicating they take this seriously, and they removed the masks as soon as they closed the door behind them. They must have worn them for the short walk from their car, or maybe even from their home. Now, removed from the outside world, they felt safe. They were with other wine fans, good people, no longer at risk from freedom-lovers (though we were in a deserted warehouse area and the parking lot was empty).
In March and April of 2020, everyone I knew seemed terrified to go anywhere. They wore gloves if they had to go out for essentials (this was before masks were popular), and they left items in the garage or hallway for days before allowing them in the house. A number of women I knew sent their husbands or boyfriends out for things (which some viewed not as chivalry but as male stupidity). I saw food-delivery people and Amazon drivers running constantly up and down the sidewalk—and somehow they were surviving. I began going to the only places that were open, which were grocery stores, a local liquor store, and breweries (takeout only). Gas stations were open also, but I didn't need much gas. In all these places, people were surviving, even thriving.
Even now, people act as if they are terrified of grocery stores and bare-faced people on a sidewalk but will happily spend long hours under low ceilings with any number of people (maskless, of course) as long as they feel they are part of the same in-group.
I was not allowed to go to this meeting (usually go as in San Francisco which is local for me) as not jabbed. Had to attend virtually which was totally disappointing and really expensive to boot (~500 registration!).
I'm not sure if congrats are in order; they will probably get another booster which will kill that natural immunity and possibly what is left of their immune system.
Well, they would have had natural immunity if they hadn’t taken the venom.
Maybe climate change made their vaxxes not work.
“Congrats to folks who likely now have natural immunity to COVID-19!”
According to el gato, this may actually mean they are in worse shape then if they’d just gotten infected without being triple jabbed.
YMMV
We have more data on Covid than any other virus in history,
We still know nothing about covid.
Great story and data. Keep up the good work. Where else would we read about this? Kudos also to whoever did the survey and compiled the information.
Will this exposure help them think logically about realizing that we're going to have to live with this?
These people are insane. Since when did anyone get so upset over catching a cold?!
Fascinating. Among those I know who got COVID at any point over the last two years, those who believe the news all say the same few things: "I did everything right." "We were being safe." "We saw only our friends, but we knew they were being safe." "I never left the house except for groceries, and then I wore my mask." "I always wore a mask." They blame the usual: Trump, people from "out-of-state," "freedom-lovers," anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers. Yet they can't figure out where and how they caught it.
A close relative who caught it in August 2021 sent in an email at the time: "I can only assume it was some freedom loving patriot at the grocery store." A Facebook post from a friend of a friend in September 2020 offered two possibilities. First: "Shopping at a popular grocery store . . . I likely touched an infected grocery cart, frozen food door, produce or credit card reader. . . . I might have let my guard down and touched my face while adjusting my glasses that day." Or: "I talked with a construction worker here at the house" who had "just returned from a Labor Day weekend wedding from out-of-state. Neither one of us was wearing a mask and he did not quarantine upon returning." (Apparently, state lines make both vigilantes and viruses more dangerous.) He advised vigilance, hand-washing, and masks: "I wore one for six months and I was healthy the whole time."
Note the three-day gap in the AGU conference data between exposure and positive test result, indicating an average incubation period of less than three days. Early on, the incubation period was about 5.5 days. It makes sense that it would continue to shorten, as viruses tend to become more infectious (faster moving) and less severe over time.
I got a positive test result just last night, Tuesday, from a swab Monday morning, from a probable exposure Friday evening, when I attended a fancy private wine tasting. My symptoms (mild aches, runny nose) appeared Sunday. I've been attending wine tastings, other events, and restaurant meals throughout, but this one had some noteworthy features. It was in a small room with a low ceiling, no fans, no open windows or doors. (Once it began, no one came or left). It lasted two hours. Voices were loud, with lots of shouting and laughing. Fourteen of the preceding 28 days had low temperatures ranging from 32 to 39 (I'm in Denver). And we were just four days from the winter solstice, so we have relatively little daylight, though not as little as New York or Brussels. (it's fitting that I got the rest result on the solstice.)
Sitting down for the event, I texted my wife, "This would be a likely event to catch the virus at." Although I'd been moving freely throughout, I'd never sent a message like this before. An elderly couple arrived, wearing the pointy masks indicating they take this seriously, and they removed the masks as soon as they closed the door behind them. They must have worn them for the short walk from their car, or maybe even from their home. Now, removed from the outside world, they felt safe. They were with other wine fans, good people, no longer at risk from freedom-lovers (though we were in a deserted warehouse area and the parking lot was empty).
In March and April of 2020, everyone I knew seemed terrified to go anywhere. They wore gloves if they had to go out for essentials (this was before masks were popular), and they left items in the garage or hallway for days before allowing them in the house. A number of women I knew sent their husbands or boyfriends out for things (which some viewed not as chivalry but as male stupidity). I saw food-delivery people and Amazon drivers running constantly up and down the sidewalk—and somehow they were surviving. I began going to the only places that were open, which were grocery stores, a local liquor store, and breweries (takeout only). Gas stations were open also, but I didn't need much gas. In all these places, people were surviving, even thriving.
Even now, people act as if they are terrified of grocery stores and bare-faced people on a sidewalk but will happily spend long hours under low ceilings with any number of people (maskless, of course) as long as they feel they are part of the same in-group.
It's beyond my understanding why anyone would worry about a slight cold and take a test which can't distinguish between sick and healthy.
It's been never more true that COVID-19 doesn't affect those who don't give shit.
I don’t know, people at my work that are vaxxed are getting covid over and over again.
I was not allowed to go to this meeting (usually go as in San Francisco which is local for me) as not jabbed. Had to attend virtually which was totally disappointing and really expensive to boot (~500 registration!).
they will say that the illness could have been worse had it not been for the vax
I'm not sure if congrats are in order; they will probably get another booster which will kill that natural immunity and possibly what is left of their immune system.
They have natural immunity that might be compromised by 'vaccine' induced immune dysfunction. Nothing comes without a price.