Florida! We just signed a contract for a home near Tampa yesterday!!! I have lived in Washington state for my entire 50 years and we are finished. My daughter who is a therapist for at risk teens is forced to wear a mask while counseling kids who are contemplating suicide. And if I see one more person by themselves in the car with a mask I think my head will pop off.. The insanity is overwhelming here. She has accepted a job in Florida and we have purchased a home there and will slowly transition to be Floridians. We are devastated that Washington state has gone crazy but so excited to live in a Free State! Come join us!!
I hate all these fukkin assholes with a passion that burns so hot, it would burn all of the to a crisp if they came near me. My kids and grandkids are in Canada. You can imagine what that is like. Makes San Diego look like libertarian heaven in comparison.
Anyway, I live in Central Florida, half way between Tampa and Orlando, town called Winter Haven. Real estate prices have risen substantially but are still only a fraction of California's. The weather is awesome 6 months of the year. The rest of the time you're an A/C prisoner. The biggest asset here are the people: smiling, relaxed, no Karens, mostly polite. Great places to eat within 15-20 miles and some nice places locally as well. Simply living in a state where Ron DeSantis sets the tone is great.
One more thing: I was born and raised in Czechoslovakia, where my parents' roots went back centuries (I believe my father's people settled there in the 17th century, migrating from Holland) I have lived in 5 different countries before settling in the US. My point: while emotional attachment to your roots is not to be discounted and uprooting carries with it a psychological price, it does not trump your natural birthright of freedom. California is now stealing that freedom brazenly and perhaps it's time to give two middle fingers
We follow each other on Twitter. If you'd like more Central Florida info, I'm your man, feel free to dm. Courage!!
Justin, no one can tell you where to move, only make suggestions. But as one who has been through public hell and back, I just wanted to tell you how much I admire your tenacity. As your family fights through this, I have absolute confidence in the resilience of you and your family. When dissent is so viciously attacked, it's difficult being that voice of reason. Prayers for you and your family. If I can help, please let me know.
Consider Idaho. Just not Boise, which is where we are. Like the rest of you, Boise used to be everything a conservative wanted. But liberals are like cockroaches. We are 80, modest income, but refuse vaccinations despite the pressure. I guess my age group can hide but we cant run, not without help, like it was mentioned, ‘where to?’ Here is my strong recommendation for the younger set: Redoubt in central and nw idaho! Home school! My daughter home schooled plus charter for some of the time. She now has 4 graduating in top% of two different universities. These young adults got scolarships and paid the rest themselves, because of their independent education. They are strong Christians and constitutionalists, tolerant and polite but unmovable, outspoken, and politically proactive. Young adults like this are the future, if we have one! But they weren’t indoctrinated in the public school system.
Dear Justin, I am so sorry. I am from CA as well and it breaks my heart what has happened there. Montana’s pretty great except for Missoula. Otherwise, you could definitely look into a Hillsdale Classical Academy or Barney Charter School in TX or FL. We are building a Classical Academy in the Bitterroot Valley, but it won’t open until 2023.
Thank you so much for all the work that you are doing. You are a godsend.
"Regardless of the potential new rules and regulations the U.S. government is prepared to unleash, it is worthwhile to consider now exactly where your line in the sand might be located. Where exactly will you and your family draw the line?
Ten years ago, CTH warned people to think very carefully about their family and specifically think about their physical location. It wasn’t some arbitrary intellectual exercise, moving takes time. Uprooting your entire family away from the comfortable social network and community is no small undertaking. People scoffed when we warned of an open intent to fundamentally change the structure of our united states assembly.
What I am suggesting now, for those who previously might have not been willing to become uncomfortable in the details of those answers, is to get very serious in thinking and talking about exactly what level of intrusion is too much. Only you and your family can make that decision. Where is your line, beyond which you simply will not permit government to cross?
There are no wrong answers, and you do not need to feel pressured to answer that question for anyone except yourself. However, I strongly encourage you to do the thinking, and to do it post haste."
I live in Los Angeles and have a farm/forest property in Tennessee. Needless to say, I've been spending more time in TN through the whole pandemic. I think I'd be really depressed if I had to stay in LA. Tried to go to an art gallery in Beverly Hills yesterday but was turned away for not having a vax card (art galleries are not even subject to the local mandate, but I was told they're following it anyway). Flying back to TN tomorrow. Williamson County is the nicest area in TN if you can afford it. I'm just south of there where the prices are about half. Williamson County parents have fought a lot for their kids throughout this whole insanity. TN is pretty much back to normal in general. Not at all like in CA where people seem quite insane - many people in CA are too scared to travel so they have no idea they're living in a crazyland bubble. I'm on flights back and forth a lot. When people started getting vaccinated and flying I would get nosebleeds sitting near them (I'm not the only person to experience this reaction to the massive amounts of spike shedding that result from vaccination). I never had nosebleeds ever in my life before that. Now I use an iodine nasal spray and the nosebleeds stopped, so I use that every time I fly. I already had Covid in March 2020 and didn't have nosebleeds then, it's just a reaction to being near vaccinated people. Even if I'm just talking to a recently vaccinated person on the street I often get a runny nose. On planes it progresses to blood (if I don't use iodine spray). Thankfully none of the people I spend the most time with in my life are vaccinated.
We left Los Angeles for Nashville this summer and it’s been THE BEST decision we’ve ever made for our family. Freedom smells sweet and the nonsense of California is avoidable. Our governor protects us
Idaho. We’re long time San Diego residents but seeing the writing on the wall we built a home in McCall last year. Wonderful State, wonderful people who share our values for the most part.
I am a life long Missourian so have to weigh in. Aside from the liberal enclaves in KC proper, St. Louis, and to a lesser extent, Columbia, Covid is in the rear view mirror. People are friendly and look out for each other, the cost of living is low, and lots of entertainment options. Downside: weather and no mountains or beaches, if that is your thing. Sis lives in So Cal, and she is an hour (plus traffic) from either, great weather, but damn, the cost of living and traffic, and very cliquish/tribal. Lived in the same house for a dozen years and still doesn't know half her neighbors. Can't imagine, everyone knows everyone in our neighborhood.
We are leaving San Diego in 2 weeks and off to Montana for an adventure…and freedom! We know weather is drastically different but we are up for the challenge. Mother Nature is all over up there. We will learn new things and grow as a family (skiing, fly fishing, and even try out hunting). I have three children that will be able to attend school mask free. They even will be going on field trips again. We are renting our home in SD just in case (hoping) politics could possibly change in a few years. Why not? No better time than the present! Good luck with your decision, it’s not easy if you are so rooted here with family & friends.
I can’t “like” this post, only say how sorry I am, and how it IS personal for most of us. I have my own story and heartaches, but shared heartaches don’t ease them, just encourage us that we are not alone and can struggle on.
Go to Hew Hampshire. The libertarian free staters have taken over the Republican Party. It’s the only state that’s turned down all federal funding for Covid measures. They’ve also cut taxes and reduced spending, unlike every other state
Another option is to home-school, although I’d advise getting out of California pronto regardless. I’m a California refugee and am so grateful we escaped when we did!
Florida! We just signed a contract for a home near Tampa yesterday!!! I have lived in Washington state for my entire 50 years and we are finished. My daughter who is a therapist for at risk teens is forced to wear a mask while counseling kids who are contemplating suicide. And if I see one more person by themselves in the car with a mask I think my head will pop off.. The insanity is overwhelming here. She has accepted a job in Florida and we have purchased a home there and will slowly transition to be Floridians. We are devastated that Washington state has gone crazy but so excited to live in a Free State! Come join us!!
I hate all these fukkin assholes with a passion that burns so hot, it would burn all of the to a crisp if they came near me. My kids and grandkids are in Canada. You can imagine what that is like. Makes San Diego look like libertarian heaven in comparison.
Anyway, I live in Central Florida, half way between Tampa and Orlando, town called Winter Haven. Real estate prices have risen substantially but are still only a fraction of California's. The weather is awesome 6 months of the year. The rest of the time you're an A/C prisoner. The biggest asset here are the people: smiling, relaxed, no Karens, mostly polite. Great places to eat within 15-20 miles and some nice places locally as well. Simply living in a state where Ron DeSantis sets the tone is great.
One more thing: I was born and raised in Czechoslovakia, where my parents' roots went back centuries (I believe my father's people settled there in the 17th century, migrating from Holland) I have lived in 5 different countries before settling in the US. My point: while emotional attachment to your roots is not to be discounted and uprooting carries with it a psychological price, it does not trump your natural birthright of freedom. California is now stealing that freedom brazenly and perhaps it's time to give two middle fingers
We follow each other on Twitter. If you'd like more Central Florida info, I'm your man, feel free to dm. Courage!!
FL, TN, TX? I'm not quite in the same boat, but I'm looking at SC
Justin, no one can tell you where to move, only make suggestions. But as one who has been through public hell and back, I just wanted to tell you how much I admire your tenacity. As your family fights through this, I have absolute confidence in the resilience of you and your family. When dissent is so viciously attacked, it's difficult being that voice of reason. Prayers for you and your family. If I can help, please let me know.
Consider Idaho. Just not Boise, which is where we are. Like the rest of you, Boise used to be everything a conservative wanted. But liberals are like cockroaches. We are 80, modest income, but refuse vaccinations despite the pressure. I guess my age group can hide but we cant run, not without help, like it was mentioned, ‘where to?’ Here is my strong recommendation for the younger set: Redoubt in central and nw idaho! Home school! My daughter home schooled plus charter for some of the time. She now has 4 graduating in top% of two different universities. These young adults got scolarships and paid the rest themselves, because of their independent education. They are strong Christians and constitutionalists, tolerant and polite but unmovable, outspoken, and politically proactive. Young adults like this are the future, if we have one! But they weren’t indoctrinated in the public school system.
Dear Justin, I am so sorry. I am from CA as well and it breaks my heart what has happened there. Montana’s pretty great except for Missoula. Otherwise, you could definitely look into a Hillsdale Classical Academy or Barney Charter School in TX or FL. We are building a Classical Academy in the Bitterroot Valley, but it won’t open until 2023.
Thank you so much for all the work that you are doing. You are a godsend.
"Regardless of the potential new rules and regulations the U.S. government is prepared to unleash, it is worthwhile to consider now exactly where your line in the sand might be located. Where exactly will you and your family draw the line?
Ten years ago, CTH warned people to think very carefully about their family and specifically think about their physical location. It wasn’t some arbitrary intellectual exercise, moving takes time. Uprooting your entire family away from the comfortable social network and community is no small undertaking. People scoffed when we warned of an open intent to fundamentally change the structure of our united states assembly.
What I am suggesting now, for those who previously might have not been willing to become uncomfortable in the details of those answers, is to get very serious in thinking and talking about exactly what level of intrusion is too much. Only you and your family can make that decision. Where is your line, beyond which you simply will not permit government to cross?
There are no wrong answers, and you do not need to feel pressured to answer that question for anyone except yourself. However, I strongly encourage you to do the thinking, and to do it post haste."
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/20/white-house-planning-major-omicron-fear-push-for-tuesday-december-21st/
I live in Los Angeles and have a farm/forest property in Tennessee. Needless to say, I've been spending more time in TN through the whole pandemic. I think I'd be really depressed if I had to stay in LA. Tried to go to an art gallery in Beverly Hills yesterday but was turned away for not having a vax card (art galleries are not even subject to the local mandate, but I was told they're following it anyway). Flying back to TN tomorrow. Williamson County is the nicest area in TN if you can afford it. I'm just south of there where the prices are about half. Williamson County parents have fought a lot for their kids throughout this whole insanity. TN is pretty much back to normal in general. Not at all like in CA where people seem quite insane - many people in CA are too scared to travel so they have no idea they're living in a crazyland bubble. I'm on flights back and forth a lot. When people started getting vaccinated and flying I would get nosebleeds sitting near them (I'm not the only person to experience this reaction to the massive amounts of spike shedding that result from vaccination). I never had nosebleeds ever in my life before that. Now I use an iodine nasal spray and the nosebleeds stopped, so I use that every time I fly. I already had Covid in March 2020 and didn't have nosebleeds then, it's just a reaction to being near vaccinated people. Even if I'm just talking to a recently vaccinated person on the street I often get a runny nose. On planes it progresses to blood (if I don't use iodine spray). Thankfully none of the people I spend the most time with in my life are vaccinated.
We left Los Angeles for Nashville this summer and it’s been THE BEST decision we’ve ever made for our family. Freedom smells sweet and the nonsense of California is avoidable. Our governor protects us
Idaho. We’re long time San Diego residents but seeing the writing on the wall we built a home in McCall last year. Wonderful State, wonderful people who share our values for the most part.
I am a life long Missourian so have to weigh in. Aside from the liberal enclaves in KC proper, St. Louis, and to a lesser extent, Columbia, Covid is in the rear view mirror. People are friendly and look out for each other, the cost of living is low, and lots of entertainment options. Downside: weather and no mountains or beaches, if that is your thing. Sis lives in So Cal, and she is an hour (plus traffic) from either, great weather, but damn, the cost of living and traffic, and very cliquish/tribal. Lived in the same house for a dozen years and still doesn't know half her neighbors. Can't imagine, everyone knows everyone in our neighborhood.
We are leaving San Diego in 2 weeks and off to Montana for an adventure…and freedom! We know weather is drastically different but we are up for the challenge. Mother Nature is all over up there. We will learn new things and grow as a family (skiing, fly fishing, and even try out hunting). I have three children that will be able to attend school mask free. They even will be going on field trips again. We are renting our home in SD just in case (hoping) politics could possibly change in a few years. Why not? No better time than the present! Good luck with your decision, it’s not easy if you are so rooted here with family & friends.
I can’t “like” this post, only say how sorry I am, and how it IS personal for most of us. I have my own story and heartaches, but shared heartaches don’t ease them, just encourage us that we are not alone and can struggle on.
Go to Hew Hampshire. The libertarian free staters have taken over the Republican Party. It’s the only state that’s turned down all federal funding for Covid measures. They’ve also cut taxes and reduced spending, unlike every other state
The best answer to your question is obvious. FLORIDA
Dr. Mike Yeadon highly recommends Florida!
Another option is to home-school, although I’d advise getting out of California pronto regardless. I’m a California refugee and am so grateful we escaped when we did!