Perhaps there’s some DoorDash effect happening across the country - but from the latest data from OpenTable it’s clear that lockdown cities have devastated their restaurant scenes.
Predictable but still so unnecessary. I would guess, by the way, that the abandonment of actually prosecuting people for street crime is also a major factor in these statistics. Nobody wants to risk their lives just to go out for a meal.
As a recent Minneapolis resident (we fled this last year) I can attest that we used to have one of the most amazing restaurant scenes in the country. So many great ethnic and owner-operator small restaurants, all wiped out and neighborhoods that once had numerous thriving options are shells of their former selves, and only the national chains survive. And of course those once safe walkable neighborhoods are seeing crime and graffiti now instead.
I don't get out much anyway due to my financial and other personal situation. But I will not support a restaurant that barred unvaxxed people. At one point I counted I think it was 8, just within walking distance of my house. I will, however, order delivery from a restaurant that did not require injections or masks. I don't have a car and it's too far/difficult to reach by public transit.
As as proud San Diegan, I'm happy to see San Diego not following the same self-destructive patterns as SF and LA (and even *gasp* Beverly Hills).
Curious though about the differences between Montreal and Vancouver (down) while Toronto, Edmonton, and Calgary up. Doesn't Führer Trudeau have the entire nation still in lockdown? I didn't think the provinces has much autonomy on the issue.
The Quebec govt- Montreal was one of the worst during lockdown--longer (plus home by 9 kind of thing) than all provinces. Alta was the "easiest- not as long, not as bad"- Calgary, Edmonton). BC (Vancouver) to this day STILL requires medical personnel to get vaxed even with the latest CDC climb down. They are rabid out there (family there).
Here in Toronto, restaurant scene is down-- just because it is showing a positive # means nothing if it is down pre-COVID-- it would be good to see the 2018 2019 #s . Most people I know are not going out as much -- yes if you are 25-25 , single and live in a Condo--heck its your social life. Why? Like eating at home, less money for some, getting out of Toronto (now that us unwashed can get on a plane) etc. Then there are the "big city incidents"-- like sitting on an upscale restaurant patio and having a very upset raging guy trying to put a patio umbrella through one of the closed patio windows-- disturbing but not surprising.
When you plan chaos through stressful lockdowns, fear mongering, pitting people against each other, changing the "rules" every day --what a surprise 🙄there is an increase in mental health issues -including guys on the street. I see it too much as a medical professional.
BTW health care is a provincial jurisdiction BUT (big but) the feds (Trudeau) collect ALL the taxes and then create a formula to send it to the Provinces. So unless you are a good girl or boy you don't get what you need. Sick systems we have--perfect for Schwab -WEF to manipulate-- totally centralized.
Yes truly global! I have found that if we stand up to their arbitrary rules the bullies back down -everywhere. I have only worn a mask on a plane/airport. Even if signs were up-- didn't wear it. I can count on one hand the number of times someone said something to me. I am in private practice-- ie self employed. I boycotted ridiculous businesses (vax and employee treatment) and withdrew my support (money/time) from virtue-signalling groups.
Removing support of any kind from these organizations - schools, politicians, "charities" , unions etc. Is the way to get them to look at what they are doing. Whether its the support of lockdowns or anything the govt does or whether its the virtual signalling trans/CRT stuff being put in schools-- withdraw your support. My mother taught me that with boycotting S. African stuff growing up. No fuel, no fire.
In fact I just answered the door here (doing case work today at home) and voila a very ernest young woman begging (sorry fund raising ) for the Red Cross. Have you seen the Red Cross positions lately? woke and ridiculous. I told her as a physician I dislike the red cross (SO many stories) and why was she standing 6-8 ft away from my door. I chided her saying "haven't you read the latest CDC climb down". Poor her I know, but geez enough sticking your head in the sand.
I think we have finally reached an inflection point on the pandemic theatrics. With more and more indisputable data coming out on an almost daily basis reinforcing everything the jab-hesitant have stood for -- and been abused for as a result -- denial is no longer an option. When the mighty (and mightily wrong) bureaucracies such as the CDC begin to back peddle the delusion is no longer sustainable. Not to mention the irreparable damage to our children and their education. What sane parent could ever condone such baseless authoritarianism ever again?
I totally agree. 😊. Its amazing the timing of the back peddle-- here in Canada you are seeing it it just before the Supreme Court hears 4 cases in October. All gov'ts understand that you can do anything as long as you achieve your goals before it goes to Court. Some airlines (S West) and employers haven't quite understood that hence the huge employee settlements. In the next two years the Insurance Industry will be screaming bloody murder (paying $$$) AND will be re-writing all kinds of policies to accommodate all the new health data/amortization tables. The unvaxxed will be getting discounts like non-smokers.
It's not just the lockdowns but limitations on occupancy, extensive cleaning, masking, vx requirements, other control-freakery (like how many people per table) that ruined in-person dining. Once people had bad experience, they're not likely to come back even if the requirements are lifted.
Oh those children in Silicon Valley-- they don't like it when they cant bully . Pathetic. Now they know why many of them were shunned in high school. Zuckerberg makes me physically ill.
There's some percentage of the population in these cities with big declines that is simply not going to eat in restaurants again, until the authorities explicitly tell them they should.
Then you have the restaurants that've closed, or are short-staffed.
Was Atlanta really a lockdown city though? Certainly Georgia was the first big state to re-open way back in Spring, 2020. Maybe it's just that nobody is commuting into the city anymore so why go out to eat there? Stay out in the 'burbs.
I live south from you. A number of times SF restaurants missed on a large group of my friends when we were there (unvxxed and we refuse masking). Once they tried to enter a few restaurants, were told to wait to be seated outside and gave up. I wouldn't even eat outside downtown SF, I don't like the smell of urine.
Exactly!! Incredible-- and of course the no smoking thing-- but heh put an unknown substance with unknown effects (we didn't test it like the others 🤷🏻) no problem
Predictable but still so unnecessary. I would guess, by the way, that the abandonment of actually prosecuting people for street crime is also a major factor in these statistics. Nobody wants to risk their lives just to go out for a meal.
And none of this had to happen. So many people’s lives (the owners’, the employees’) ruined.
As a recent Minneapolis resident (we fled this last year) I can attest that we used to have one of the most amazing restaurant scenes in the country. So many great ethnic and owner-operator small restaurants, all wiped out and neighborhoods that once had numerous thriving options are shells of their former selves, and only the national chains survive. And of course those once safe walkable neighborhoods are seeing crime and graffiti now instead.
Minneapolis! We’re #1!
Thanks Jacob!
how much of this awful decline now is due to economic decline?
I don't get out much anyway due to my financial and other personal situation. But I will not support a restaurant that barred unvaxxed people. At one point I counted I think it was 8, just within walking distance of my house. I will, however, order delivery from a restaurant that did not require injections or masks. I don't have a car and it's too far/difficult to reach by public transit.
As as proud San Diegan, I'm happy to see San Diego not following the same self-destructive patterns as SF and LA (and even *gasp* Beverly Hills).
Curious though about the differences between Montreal and Vancouver (down) while Toronto, Edmonton, and Calgary up. Doesn't Führer Trudeau have the entire nation still in lockdown? I didn't think the provinces has much autonomy on the issue.
The Quebec govt- Montreal was one of the worst during lockdown--longer (plus home by 9 kind of thing) than all provinces. Alta was the "easiest- not as long, not as bad"- Calgary, Edmonton). BC (Vancouver) to this day STILL requires medical personnel to get vaxed even with the latest CDC climb down. They are rabid out there (family there).
Here in Toronto, restaurant scene is down-- just because it is showing a positive # means nothing if it is down pre-COVID-- it would be good to see the 2018 2019 #s . Most people I know are not going out as much -- yes if you are 25-25 , single and live in a Condo--heck its your social life. Why? Like eating at home, less money for some, getting out of Toronto (now that us unwashed can get on a plane) etc. Then there are the "big city incidents"-- like sitting on an upscale restaurant patio and having a very upset raging guy trying to put a patio umbrella through one of the closed patio windows-- disturbing but not surprising.
When you plan chaos through stressful lockdowns, fear mongering, pitting people against each other, changing the "rules" every day --what a surprise 🙄there is an increase in mental health issues -including guys on the street. I see it too much as a medical professional.
BTW health care is a provincial jurisdiction BUT (big but) the feds (Trudeau) collect ALL the taxes and then create a formula to send it to the Provinces. So unless you are a good girl or boy you don't get what you need. Sick systems we have--perfect for Schwab -WEF to manipulate-- totally centralized.
Thanks so much for the local perspective. This madness is truly global in nature, as is the suffering it has wrought. It must end.
Yes truly global! I have found that if we stand up to their arbitrary rules the bullies back down -everywhere. I have only worn a mask on a plane/airport. Even if signs were up-- didn't wear it. I can count on one hand the number of times someone said something to me. I am in private practice-- ie self employed. I boycotted ridiculous businesses (vax and employee treatment) and withdrew my support (money/time) from virtue-signalling groups.
Removing support of any kind from these organizations - schools, politicians, "charities" , unions etc. Is the way to get them to look at what they are doing. Whether its the support of lockdowns or anything the govt does or whether its the virtual signalling trans/CRT stuff being put in schools-- withdraw your support. My mother taught me that with boycotting S. African stuff growing up. No fuel, no fire.
In fact I just answered the door here (doing case work today at home) and voila a very ernest young woman begging (sorry fund raising ) for the Red Cross. Have you seen the Red Cross positions lately? woke and ridiculous. I told her as a physician I dislike the red cross (SO many stories) and why was she standing 6-8 ft away from my door. I chided her saying "haven't you read the latest CDC climb down". Poor her I know, but geez enough sticking your head in the sand.
Never mind. I stand corrected.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3606895-facebook-takes-down-page-for-anti-vaccination-organization-run-by-robert-f-kennedy-jr/
I think we have finally reached an inflection point on the pandemic theatrics. With more and more indisputable data coming out on an almost daily basis reinforcing everything the jab-hesitant have stood for -- and been abused for as a result -- denial is no longer an option. When the mighty (and mightily wrong) bureaucracies such as the CDC begin to back peddle the delusion is no longer sustainable. Not to mention the irreparable damage to our children and their education. What sane parent could ever condone such baseless authoritarianism ever again?
I totally agree. 😊. Its amazing the timing of the back peddle-- here in Canada you are seeing it it just before the Supreme Court hears 4 cases in October. All gov'ts understand that you can do anything as long as you achieve your goals before it goes to Court. Some airlines (S West) and employers haven't quite understood that hence the huge employee settlements. In the next two years the Insurance Industry will be screaming bloody murder (paying $$$) AND will be re-writing all kinds of policies to accommodate all the new health data/amortization tables. The unvaxxed will be getting discounts like non-smokers.
It's not just the lockdowns but limitations on occupancy, extensive cleaning, masking, vx requirements, other control-freakery (like how many people per table) that ruined in-person dining. Once people had bad experience, they're not likely to come back even if the requirements are lifted.
THATS for sure-- great point
Not one day should any of these places closed. It would have made zero difference.
Oh those children in Silicon Valley-- they don't like it when they cant bully . Pathetic. Now they know why many of them were shunned in high school. Zuckerberg makes me physically ill.
I don't patronize businesses that kow-towed to Big Brother medical apartheid.
There's some percentage of the population in these cities with big declines that is simply not going to eat in restaurants again, until the authorities explicitly tell them they should.
Then you have the restaurants that've closed, or are short-staffed.
Was Atlanta really a lockdown city though? Certainly Georgia was the first big state to re-open way back in Spring, 2020. Maybe it's just that nobody is commuting into the city anymore so why go out to eat there? Stay out in the 'burbs.
I live south from you. A number of times SF restaurants missed on a large group of my friends when we were there (unvxxed and we refuse masking). Once they tried to enter a few restaurants, were told to wait to be seated outside and gave up. I wouldn't even eat outside downtown SF, I don't like the smell of urine.
Hat tip to you for staying steadfast. Time to find new friends. Share the link below with those who still have the ability to reason.
https://amgreatness.com/2022/08/16/report-44-percent-of-pregnant-women-in-pfizer-trial-lost-their-babies-fda-and-cdc-recommended-jabs-for-expectant-mothers-anyway/
Your opening paragraph is incredible
Exactly!! Incredible-- and of course the no smoking thing-- but heh put an unknown substance with unknown effects (we didn't test it like the others 🤷🏻) no problem