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We're going to see a LOT of gaslighting like Oster's over the next several years.

"We just didn't know"

"The science changed"

"We were just trying to do our best for the public"

How about, "Sorry we were complete grifters, con artists, and selfish idiots."

That would be a start.

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We knew, they knew. All this was discussed early on until it had to be shut down through a conspiracy of CDC, Big Tech, Big Pharma, WHO, and WEF to (1) ensure Big Pharma got their $$$$, and (2) ‘they’ could install fear in the populace to control them. #NoAmnesty

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Boom. Thanks for providing (some of) the receipts for what is, without question, a brazen, tone-deaf lie, offered by a person who should know we know better!

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we all knew and in certain states, the governors knew and prevented the insanity even with tremendous opposition from on high. remember when desantis convened a group of scientists to discuss the covid response and was widely ridiculed for not "following the science"? and look what happens to his appointed a black harvard trained doctor as florida's surgeon general. suddenly all the woke people who will accuse you of being a racist if you blink at someone are calling him stupid, anti-science, a conspiracy theorist and even- i've seen this in comments- "sambo"!

how do these people live with themselves?

any moron knows that you can't shut down the world every flu season and yet, without a "pandemic," without GOF research to make new sexy viruses, without the power to inflict "vaccines" on the public at large, guys like fauci might as well be accountants (no offense to accountants). you notice that every couple of years, the panic programming starts- oh my god! it's H1N1!!! it's swine flu!!! it's bird flu!!!! we're all gonna die!!! and then it turns out to be nothing. that idiot computer modeler in the UK predicts that billions will die and he turns out to be wrong by a factor of billions and it all goes away and they sink back into their boring anonymity.

but this time the PR campaign was very sophisticated and worked. now people are so bought in that they can't walk it back. you disowned your mother, who didn't mind nursing your when you were sick as a baby, who didn't cast you out because you might infect her!!!! you did to her what she would never have done to you and now you're waking up to the reality that you're a pretty crappy weak willed person and your mom deserved better and it's hard for you to look in the mirror and you're afraid because you're on your fifth shot and counting. can you admit you were wrong and beg forgiveness of the family you disowned, of the friends you mocked, of the co-workers you pushed out, of the people you wished dead all because they weren't vaccinated? or will you just fall back on the tried and true "if only i had known then...?"

hindsight is 20/20. next time have some damn foresight.

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Agreed..thanks for putting all this info in one spot..I’m definitely sharing!

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The declared purpose of lockdowns and masks in March 2020 was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. But a month later it was already clear from the data that the model was wrong, hospitals were half-empty, and there was no reason keeping schools and businesses further closed. My working class neighborhood knew that. How come it took 2.5 years for a university professor to learn that the data didn't support the measures?

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Correct. You don't get to silence/ignore everyone who tried to tell you the truth, and then claim you couldn't have known. They can forgive themselves, but the angry mob might not agree.

https://dystopianliving.substack.com/p/the-silenced-majority-finds-its-voice

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"There you go again" with your long list of (very pertinent) FACTS.

Your list puts to shame the well worn phrase, "if it only saves ONE life"....

Actually if policy makers and main stream media would have FOLLOWED the homily "if it only...) They would have paid attention to the unnecessary appeal to fear and irrational conduct. But the hope to use the pandemic for further leverage into a greater nanny state and the advancement of their brand of politics and political philosophy ensured that they wouldn't let this "crisis go to waste"

And you can justify ANYTHING when you enable the "noble lie" argument. After all, even the fascists and communists (who killed over 100 million in roughly the last hundred years) used the exact playbook. Another failure of present school system is the lack of knowledge of this, using fear as a instrument of governing, and the immorality of it.

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I LOVE when people bring receipts. THANK YOU RATIONAL GROUND.

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The worse crime against humanity will NOT EVER be forgiven. Prosecutions with life sentences and/or executions coming for politicians, CDC/FDA, Fauci, Big Tech, the Media, Education officials and everyone else who KNOWINGLY were trying to kill us, while censoring everyone who was desperately trying to save us. NO MERCY!

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EXACTLY! Great list. Indeed, I read very similar or perhaps the same kinds of things and tried to alert my friends and family. Mostly for naught though, fear trumps reason every time.

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What a great list, thank you!

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I knew by the end of 2020 summer and what mRNA jabs meant. At least enough to figure I wasn’t doing those.

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Yeah let’s just forget about Event 201. Let’s forget Fauci knew chloroquine was a potent inhibitor of SARS IN 2005.

YOU. MUST. BE. KIDDING.

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I made a comment on this site that applies here also: https://www.eugyppius.com/p/once-more-on-renowned-fool-emily

In response Igors' statement: "There was a reason why "they" selected Emily"... I said:

It says she studied Economics @ Harvard; as did Kissinger and Schwab et.al. :

were they not well-known Malthusian Economists advocating Eugenics and Depopulation?

She does not base her "Atlantic" article on any scientific data, nor info from CDC, SEC filings, Patents, etc...and advocates for mandates even though, from the very beginning, anyone who looked at the details of information in the Public Domain at the sites we were supposed to visit could read that it decreased chances of hospitalization, not transmission nor infection. She is advocating a narrative, under the guise of parenting and health...

Emily Oster's statement:

"Many people have neglected their health care over the past several years. Notably, routine vaccination rates for children (for measles, pertussis, etc.) are way down. Rather than debating the role that messaging about COVID vaccines had in this decline, we need to put all our energy into bringing these rates back up. Pediatricians and public-health officials will need to work together on community outreach, and politicians will need to consider school mandates."

Authority? Where do values lie for economists? Definitive reasoning? On what is her stance based? Anyone who enables tyranny to occur-like this advocacy of experimental Gene Therapy injections-(not vaccines) as filed under Gene Therapy Medical Devices (vaccines are not filed there) in the SEC Filings, And Also Mandates: where is her legal background to establish [mandates]for a non-transmissable ( that's what "replication defective" means in the patent) Group of Symptoms- that she is calling for mandates for...Is this not like the Good Soldier, a tool of implementation for someone's scheme? Is this not as culpable as the talking heads in unison saying "Safe & effective" without accurate scientific data? Is it just a PsyOp, or pocketing funds to write what is demanded by overlords?

Without Emily Osters, the tyrranists' could not get their plans implemented.

Forgiveness, Yes, but Amnesty, No.

I also call BS on her misinformation of not having the facts, as she states:

"We can leave out the willful purveyors of actual misinformation while forgiving the hard calls that people had no choice but to make with imperfect knowledge. "

There is no denying that they knew exactly what they were doing, as there is so much proof: Patents, SEC Filing, research data (RR vs. ARR,etc).

"In the face of so much uncertainty, getting something right had a hefty element of luck. And, similarly, getting something wrong wasn’t a moral failing. "

BS: Anyone with access to the internet could have done the basic research that I did. Focus on health, truth, and the maxim: "First, Do No Harm" is foremost, not Corporate Trade Secrets veiling ingredients, so that informed consent is not possible; nor Economics and WEF 4th Industrial Revolution as the Prime Directive.

These people are responsible for doing harm; so it Is- Absolutely- a moral failing; especially shooting up the children with experimental Gene Therapy...I want her to look up what's now in the bivalent flu shots, etc., which she calls part of the health regime. How a society treats its children is an indication of its morality. Stop Advocating to Harm Children, Emily Oster!

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If anyone thinks that the perpetrators are ever going to apologize, repent and promise to never violate bodily autonomy and force destructive useless harmful unscientific measures on us again I would encourage all of you to rethink this very carefully. They absolutely will and must never allow them to do so again.

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